my car has transformed into many different cars in just the 3 years I’ve owned it lmao
god I can’t believe it has changed so much… I suck at making my mind up on what I’m happy with, is all it comes down to… :P
I bought the new wheels b/c 1) the chrome wheels I had were my dad’s off of his Challenger and I hated that I was pretty much ruining them using them b/c I drive my car daily and don’t clean it unless I have to and 2) they were my DREAM wheel, anyways, soo it’s all good ;D
Never mind the scene inspiration, which is ‘An Occurrence at Old Creek Bridge’ in which long story short, dying man seeks his family but it’s actually a dream.
Never mind the warm colors which allude to a happy, peaceful, safe place (and romance but I won’t go there yet).
Never mind the fact that this whole scene implies that Stiles is Derek’s anchor.
Never mind the meaning of locker rooms in dreams (cooling off and pursue of love interest) and especially in Derek’s case, which we know to be his safe place.
Never mind their postures; Derek all vulnerable and Stiles showing care and intense focus on Derek’s problems, listening and taking him seriously.
Never mind the parallels from 3x01.
What I wanna know is who thought that filming these shots was gonna show a totally platonic relationship between two male characters who omg did not interact for a whole season. That right there, the zoom in on Stiles and Derek’s faces, the way that their heads are framed into the shot, the closeness that is conveyed, the way that it’s focused only on stiles’ emotional reaction - those are details used in a romantic setting. Mute the scene and explain to me how can that be interpreted as platonic. The lightning combined with the angles and framing are deliberate and are there to show intimacy, caring and trust between two ‘friends’. Okay.
If this was the only sterek interaction that we had in 4 seasons I would still ship them because the romantic connotations are so heavy that I’m honestly surprised that it’s canon
LET ME FURTHER MY POINT - 4X03 SCIRA KISS
It’s literally the same lighting - the same afternoon soft glow
It’s literally the same position - the light coming from behind the love interest (and from the side in Stiles’ case). Light coming from behind/the side means situations that should be treated in depth, deeper meanings and so on.
I’m ???? It’s THE SAME LIGHTING
yeah no matter what anyone tells you, sterek is endgame.
BUT coming off of that last post I reblogged there is absolutely NO WAY that they don’t mean for these two to mean a whole lot to each other
this scene gives me ALL THE HOPE IN THE WORLD
Stiles and Derek don’t need to bang. Really. Really they don’t.
They don’t have to be in a sexual or romantic relationship of any kind if you don’t feel that’s where the story should go. Fair enough, it’s YOUR story.
Stiles and Derek do need to be in a RELATIONSHIP.
The story needs to address the connections it’s made between these characters and show that they’re okay with caring about each other.
Because you don’t set up shots like this:
Or plot points like this:
Or themes like this:
And not have them mean anything.
That’s just poor storytelling, and we all expect better of you.
Seriously if you never want them to be together AT LEAST make them the people these scenes hint at them to be becoming, PLEASE.
There are no reasons to give us scenes like these and make them mean absolutely nothing afterwards.
There’s a reason this is my go-to image for Sterek. Why? Because Sterek is a struggle. Sterek IS a fight. Sterek is NOT an easy ship. If you want an easy ship, Scira is right down the hall. Not swing that way? Well, Skittiles is taking applications
No, Sterek is not easy. I never said it was. The best ships never are. It’s easy to ship Sterek when Stiles is a goofy doe-eyed lonely boy. It’s easy when Derek is a broken loner.
It’s a lot harder when they’re behaving like actual people who have actual lives. Who have histories and baggage and weaknesses.
And I told you this.
I told you we would have to fight for it. I told you we’d have heartache. That every step would be walking on broken glass. That it’s going to look like Sterek doesn’t happen, up until the moment it does.
Jeff is doing a very clever thing right now, he’s leveling the playing field, making it look like they are farther apart, when they’re actually getting closer together.
Sterek will happen. Sterek is the endgame. But it’s not going to happen this week or next week or next month. Try next year.
But when it does. When that ship finally comes into harbor, and Derek finally takes Stiles into his arms- It’s going to be so worth it.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL (gasp) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Did you really think that would work? Really?
LOLOLOL! I have to tell you, we had a good, good laugh over this. Especially the part about you not being cruel, you horrid, horrid person.
My spirit is in no danger of being crushed. At all. I’ve lived through things that make TW not even show up on a scale.
And, a Stalia Endgame???? Really? You really think that? Honestly? Because, I’ve got this bridge here you might be interested in.
We’re dealing with episode 3 and promos for 4. Nothing is predictable at this point, except that the stuff we see now won’t last. Hell, in episode 4 of season 1, Scott and Allison were hot & heavy. But by 9? Not so much.
Stalia is not going to see the end of the season, and will probably be done with much, much sooner. Draeden is going to burn out even faster. All the previous episodes that have been building Sterek up aren’t going anywhere.
Did you miss the part where I said that Jeff was going to hurt us all the way through? Or Maybe the part where I predicted that Sterek’s going to look like it’s not going to happen, until just before it does?
My friends and I actually do know what we’re talking about. Sterek is the endgame. Nothing’s changed that.
absolutely, until this season started i would have said sterek wouldn’t happen until the end of season 5, but I’ll be surprised if it’s not in place by ep 9
If I were to guess, I think there won’t be many scenes between Derek and Stiles this season until the conclusion of Derek’s anchor arc culminating in his chosen anchor, which the end of 3b hinted heavily is Stiles. Derek and Stiles are paralleling each other more and more as the promo poster for this season predicted. Doesn’t bode well for Stiles’ relationship with Malia tbh. Like Derek, Stiles is carrying a lot of guilt now (more than he was already) and I think that’s an important factor in his relationship with Malia. When I re-watched the Echo House episode the other night, I realised how important Ms Morrell’s discussion of guilt is to Stiles’ [and Derek’s] arc. When Stiles is reunited with Malia in Eichen House and she reveals how she resents him for forcibly turning her back, Stiles clearly feels remorse. So it could stand to reason his relationship with Malia is one of penance, making amends for the crimes he feels he is responsible for - the only one he can make amends for. Obvs not the healthiest start to a relationship (making out in the basement of a mental health clinic aside). I think Stiles’ guilt is going to be the focus of his arc this season, his relationship with Malia being the result of that guilt, adding an extra layer of ick to the already present issues of consent. I think there’s still a lot more going on with Malia that we don’t know, too. As for Derek, he’s clearly not quite *right*, whatever that means. He seems to be struggling with control again, which, as the end of 3b foreshadowed, puts us right on the path for his anchor arc. But I think in order to play out both arcs, Derek and Stiles have to stay apart to effectively parallel each other. Does that make sense? I know it made sense in my head before I typed it. XD
It makes sense! I think that you nailed it really, we won’t see much(if any) scenes of Stiles and Derek together until that reveal. Stiles’ relationship with Malia is incredibly unhealthy, he’s in it partially for the wrong reasons. Derek is going to have an interesting season, Kate took something from him, something that makes him Derek and It’s obvious that he won’t be the same person until he gets it back.
candlelifera replied to your post “So about the lamia thing. Malia is the hawaiian variant of maria but common english spelling is mary and this webpage thinks it that its most likely from a egyptian names meaning love or beloved. And Tate is yiddish for father. Which is pretty hmm. There is other stuff to both names but that def made me hmmm.”Malia (Ma-lì-a) in italian is a spell that captures someone’s heart or mind. But you probably knew that already.
no, my dear, i did not, and this is why i encourage everyone to pop forth with their ideas - often the answer is in plain sight but we don’t know how to see it
oh— yeah, someone did a meta on it a while back, it prolly got swallowed up in my likes, hold on— ok got it, thank you skype logs.
NO! Not at all!
BUT WAIT let me answer this question properly, i’ve been dying to for AGES!
I think it’s ridiculous how a girl who spent years of her life living in the woods is mature enough to have a relationship.
The first time she meets she punches. Making of a healthy relationship everyone, let’s ship the violence!
Then five seconds late their kissing, and apparently a tree gave her the birds and the bees talk, and she’s emotionally mature enough to kiss… whatever jeff. It’s not like they are both mentally unstable or anything.
Then we get all of Shelley’s interviews and any hope of Malia being a cute little clueless coyote, making friends, and joining the pack go out the window. Because she and Stiles ’mates’. One moment coyotes are tricksters, then they mate for life and have committed relationships… oh fucking dear.
"Coyotes are very faithful and loyal animals, and she finds her mate. Apparently, coyotes find their mate, and they mate for life, because they are loyal." - SHELLEY HENNIG
Then in episode one you see her willing to eat/leave lydia and Kira…
BUT ”I’d never leave you Stiles” *sick in my mouth* I HATE HOW DEPENDENT SHE IS ON STILES. She doesn’t care about anyone but stiles and that strikes me as unhealthy.
Malia being pack folks.
Then we find out she climbs into Stiles’ room at night.. how fucking creepy. This relationship is toxic. How would you feel if i’d known you for 2 months and started breaking into your house and spooning with you. This is such a twilight moment… ahhhh literature.
Then the fact they don’t know each other properly and aren’t 100% honest with eachother. Stiles could just tell her that her entire life as she knew it is a lie… or something.
So yeah… Malia can be a cutie when she’s not being a little heartless. But screw Stalia… it just doesn’t work.
DON’T YOU DARE STEAL THE RED STRING OF FATE THING, STALIA THAT IS NOT YOUR THING!!!!
PS: I do love me a little Shelley Hennig… none of these beautiful gifs are mine, full credit to the talented people.
This is why i will never ship it
Hell i don’t like her
I literally find myself asking this after every single episode. I like to read meta, I like to think the show is well-written because I am attached to the characters. I want to believe the plotholes have reasoning. I want to believe in epic endgame relationships.
But I don’t know man.
Is Teen Wolf so cleverly written and the writers are hinting at things that sometimes I don’t even pick up on it, or is it a poorly done werewolf show?
What do you guys think?
I wouldn’t be surprised
but I’m sitting there smug going I told you so because I did, the trailers are cut to mislead, and that works well, don’t you think
I want this b/c I keep thinking back to his ”Am I attractive to gay guys?” quotes back in S1 and now what IF a gay guy found him attractive???? WHAT IF??
The most underrated Sterek scene ever.
- This is the first time Anyone on the show has actively talked about stopping Derek from experiencing pain.
-This is the first time someone has acknowledged that Derek is Never happy.
-This is the first time Stiles has changed his mind about something . Stiles goes from “we should tell him the truth!” to “Lets lie to him to avoid him from experiencing pain!”
-This is the first time anyone has talked about the fact that even after everything goes back to normal Derek will still be Unhappy.
And last but not the least Stiles looks at bby!Derek as Derek is a puzzle which needs solving, to figure out why he is the way he is. And yes the way Stiles defends Scott when he says the lying was the rt thing to do, he is not actually doing it to make Scott feel better about lying but to tell himself that yes Derek does not have to go through more pain, than he already feels.
There is genuine concern on his face. And that makes is scene so important!
There is definitely something wrong with Derek. This is anger. He can’t control himself anymore. And his anger used to anchor him. I think this is where Stiles steps in as his new anchor.
And this rises the question: does Derek know that his anchor has changed? Because the dream in 3x24 was Derek’s subconcious leading him to Stiles, but we still don’t know if he’s actually aware of what his trust in Stiles means.
He’s also spent the last 2 months (probably) unconscious and then there was the whole deaged thing… It’s possible he’s not realized yet what has replaced anger as his anchor.
Hoechlin has talked before about Derek changing his anchor and he said something about finding a family in Stiles, Scott and the others. Now, I don’t know if Derek has realized this, but I am sure that he doesn’t realize yet that Stiles alone has anything to do with it. That remains to be played out. And I’m pretty sure it will, especially when there are rumors that the 3x24 dream scene will be shown on an ‘previously on teen wolf’ bit, so at the very least it will be addressed.
that’s a new look for you
Doesn’t this seem odd though? I mean Peter wasn’t doing anything more annoying than usual and Derek just wolfed out in his face. I get that he must be feeling pretty damn bad after everything - Kate coming back, him being de-aged and used by her again, the vault and the money being stolen (I’m pretty sure he blames himself for that), the change in his eyes that he clealy has no idea what it means - but still the Derek we know is the poster boy for complete self-control even in the worst of times. So this is very OOC reaction for him - especially in front of Peter. He looked like he was going for his throat there for a sec. Again something the Derek we know wouldn’t do.
So I know that there all tons of theories about Derek still being entombed in Mexico and about this being like a psychic projection or something.
I don’t prescribe to this theory, 1) I find it too convoluted and 2) Araya said she’d come to BH, no reason to have the team back in Mexico.
What I do agree with is, this is not the Derek hale we have known, but he doesn’t have to be an imposter, he could just be lost in a different sense. That also fits with the theme of Air for the season, the things that are hidden and shadowed.
Now my belief is that we’re going to see a dark storyline for Derek a lot of this season, couple that with the fact that Kate is alive… Kate is a person who to Derek in season 1 was a monster like the Monster he was completely scared of her, and he didn’t have a yearning for revenge.
I think that’s changed, Kate by being turned into a were-creature is suddenly not an undeafeatable enemy to Derek.
I truly believe that Derek will spiral into an obsession with getting to Kate to kill her, it also fits with the, now his eyes are gold again, he would see the eyes as mementoes of his past, the dead girlfriend, the dead family, something Kate did (Not really, but it’s his only clue) caused him to lose that. His rage has been unleashed.
At the end though I figure Stiles will bring him back from it, but that’s really just a guess at this point.
So further thinking makes me think that this will play into the Dreaden thing which is supposed to happen, if we examine canon, Derek reaches for romance when he is lost. He did it with Kate after Paige, then with Jennifer when he was lost on what to do with the Alpha pack.
I agree with you. And I can see Stiles (maybe apart from Peter) being the only one who will see the pattern here. 4x02 also had the focus on the anchor theme again. So at one point in the season (who knows how Derek will surrender to his feelings of rage and revenge) the gang will have to face the problem. And then it will get interesting because no one knows that Stiles is his anchor yet. I bet the first attempts to “tame him” will fail.